Gavin Ortlund and Michael Horton explore the origins of “spiritual but not religious” as an ideology.
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00:00 Introduction
01:41 “Spiritual But Not Religious” Alive Today
05:38 Do We Overestimate Atheism
08:05 Superstition and Witchcraft Today
10:24 Origins of “Spiritual But Not Religious”
18:17: Defining “Orphism” and “Natural Supernaturalism”
24:45 Is Our Age “Disenchanted?”
32:20 Evangelizing Our Panentheist Friends
36:41 God’s Otherness is Good News
41:38 Emphasizing the Creator-creation Distinction
45:18 Wrapping Up
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It is an utmost delusion to be happy to be ruled by the celestial dictator!
The church is mythical and should be taken metaphorically not literally
Take a shot whenever he says
"uh" or "ehm"
No seriously, can't people work on their rhetorical skills when they give a talk?
This is hard to listen to.
Loved this interview … I could listen to you two talk for hours!
Evolution oozes Truth and Knowledge. Otherwise, prey go uneaten, and hunters go hungry.
People "playing with magic"? What do you call "prayers", if not "magical incantations"?
The christian worldview is an attempt to "magically" predict your eternal future.
Religion without spirituality is than spirituality alone.
Religion brought us the Crusades, the witch trials, the Inquisition, helped legitimize slavery, Nazism, – is that enough to make the point? That's just one religion.
Where is your list of spiritual atrocities?
When someone tells me they're "spiritual but not religious," I tell them that I'm "religious but not spiritual." Just to mess with their heads. And don't ask me if I'm Presbyterian or Anglican, ok?
The Christian Church needs to look at why Christians are deconstructing, not so much into what as why. How much has to do with what I term modern day Phariseeism? And hypocrisy, rooted in perfectionist performance vs grace?
No one could refuse this " spirituality" because it lets you boogie in whatever way you want.
New age stuff, is so goddamned stupid, I am surprised anyone falls for it. It represents a complete flight from reason.
I heard about the charismatic "renewal" stemming from shamanism and that majority of these "spiritual" experiences are not necessarily inspired by the Holy Spirit. Not say tongues is not active today but that it's rarer than we like to believe, cause certainly God can do whatever he wants.
"Young Michael Horton" as James M. Boice and others said of him decades ago in my hearing.
If I made a living writing books about Christianity, I'd promote it also.
No way only 2% of American adults are atheist.
Really interesting video. I know this wasn’t the intent of course, but it really helped further elucidate for me how the Christian story is ultimately ad hoc word/concept salad
Good interview! Good questions! Great answers!
Eriugena is just a compound name of Eriu + gena, Eire-born, born Irish. He is an archon of paganism along with those living in his shadows – Meister Eckhart, some of the Rhineland mystics and anabaptists (not all of course). The scholastic John Duns Scotus (John of the town of Duns in Scotland) is a particular orphic weirdo who originated the immaculate conception that not even Aquinas could swallow. So much of this orphic architecture is given new air by medieval intellectualism.
Just got the book. Best book on historical theology I have ever seen. I studied H.T. way back in the early 90's at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary and fell in love with this content way back then. Michael Horton is like the re-incarnation (lololol) of my old HT prof Dr Joe Crawford. Thanks for such great content. This book is amazing.
Dr. Horton's work on this is so helpful. This stuff is truly everywhere. I recall one encounter I had with a couple of "street evangelists": the younger one was actually passionate about the Gospel, just misguided, the older one was disturbingly dogmatic about the one-time inner experience. Did I personally confess Christ as my Lord and Savior? Didn't matter. Spend time reading the Bible prayerfully on the daily? Unimportant. Confess my sin to God regularly? I was blind. Weekly attend my local Reformed church? Recite the Lord's prayer and sing a Psalm with my fiancee most days? Empty ritual. I had started out by saying it was by God's power and will that I was sure that I was saved, and so the only thing that would satisfy and stop the accusations and attempts to make me doubt my salvation was if I got on my knees prayed, and started trusting in my choice instead of the work of Christ. So I started talking about the Kindom of God, and its impact on the culture. The older one visibly recoiled and insisted that I needed to stop thinking about God's Kingdom and how that was evidence that I wasn't saved. I ended the encounter by praying with the younger one that they reach unconverted souls, as that was something we could agree on.