Fair criticism. But this does not apply to people who come together in a spiritual but not religious setting to connect to each other and to God. Or as they would say 'the universe'😂. I know you can criticize that as well, so please do.
Sounds almost like the original sin of Adam and Eve. I want to become like God but without God, on “my” own terms. I want to be spiritual on my own terms without the religion of binding me to God and to His church.
To be fair, it's not always driven by selfishness; rather, it may reflect a desire to avoid being tied to individuals who don't truly share the same understanding. Even when two people profess faith in Jesus, their intentions can differ significantly.
But truly spiritual person realizes that he doesn’t need religion with all its dogmas and rituals to experientially know the oneness that he is with everyone and everything. Unfortunately, if religion isn’t properly understood as a means to an end and is instead made to be an end in and of itself, the religious person can mistakenly think that it’s the dogmas and rituals which bind him to those of his religion, never transcending the dualistic limits of religion and knowing himself truly.
Followers of Jesus were first called “ Christians “ in Antioch. ( Acts 11:26 ) … for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great number of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch. They were called “ Christians “ because their speech and behaviour were like Christ.
The truth of Christianity leads us not to a position of pride over other people or other religions. Rather we are called into a humble way of life that seeks to embody the love of Jesus through the Spirit so that the whole world might come to know God, the creator of heaven and earth, in and through Jesus Christ. For the truth of Christianity is not that we somehow found our way to God, but that God, in Jesus Christ, came and found us.
The greatest truth is not something you can hold onto, but that which holds onto us.✝️❤️❤️✝️
Religio that which binds there is good religion and bad religion good religion is being bound by the God of Life the God of the most High. Bad religion is being bound to lower dead gods.
You spoke I spaced out. Not in a negative way. Regurgitating the same old written words gets OLD real quick. It's not a knock on any religion. In fact, it should inspire people to find out what is real and what isn't. If we all make mistakes that means god and his chosen ones also made mistakes. So what do we do? That's the billion dollar question. I respect all religions. Some rules are too rigid. Why? Who? Started that? They injected their own view to religion. Why can't I and other people do the same thing? 🎉
I partly disagree, because I don't think that the "spiritual but not religious" thing is in all cases about me wanting to do things my way all the time. It could also be about not agreeing fully with any one tradition, but seeing some value in several ones. It could be a matter of conviction rather than a mere preference.
Bible says there are only 2 spirits…God/Holy Spirit and the other is Satan/ demonic/…so it's not good to just be spiritual because Satan is a spirit…we have to choose who we will align with( choose ye this day whom ye will serve)
there's a problem with groups when they ask you to sacrifice your personal ability to think to a mediocre collective ideology.
there are also things binding the "spiritual" person to other spiritual people… a preference for liberty and individual thought are pretty decent values that can pull people together regardless of creed.
the problem is when people have different epistemologies, then you get into the whole "my truth" thing and you can't communicate across boundaries.
Hold on , SBNR or SBNA is a good stance because it takes the boundaries between the religions ,it means you can use the mechanism and material from everything
Do you do yoga ? Meditate? That's a proof that the whole world today is going in the direction of SBNR or SBNA.
Religion is truly a bad product , spirituality on the other hand is freeing.
I don't want the shackles,if you want them ,so be it
Spirituality, there are many spiritual beliengs, like demons. The true religion guides you to the proper Spirit, which is God. Paul calls these idols and false gods of false religions demons.
Belief and religion are not one in the same. Belief and practice is how one lives to better their own and those around them. Religion is the tool used to claim "yeah, but our sect of said religion is the only true one" religion is used to indoctrinate people particularly if taught by the wrong person (Osteen's of the world) and it's also used to shame you into giving your tides away, which let's be honest, is just a guilt trip to never say it out loud, buy your way into heaven. There is a difference some just like to shame others for not doing exactly as they do so they make videos on youtube to feel better about themselves
I think the ultimate nirvana is recognizing that the devil was an angel, the devil was one of Gods angels, and we all have a devil within us. We all have a light body, and a dark body. We have our heaven consciousness and we have our survival consciousness which is earth consciousness. We are here to remember that we have done things to survive, only because we forgot what our home frequency is. That’s all.
The real problem with religion is a not what this man is saying . Religious people ( many ) divide . My unique God versus all else is evil ( in case of the Christians ) The other religions don’t condemn but use is as a territorial tool . Mine me my precious ring … and the only problem with spirituality is that at some Point you need a Guru and that might be not easy to find . Otherwise you will might go on deceiving yourself. And I think you are talking about practicing non attachment but that also Jesus though!
It means I'm not gonna give up on existence of holy power beyond us and his goodness just because for centuries human made fake religions caused so much pain and violence and suffering
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household."
I don't think it's dogma that really bothers us. The real repulsive thing about religion is that it binds us to sinners. And Christ did just that.
Full talk: https://youtu.be/OutbtwqxZn0
Fair criticism. But this does not apply to people who come together in a spiritual but not religious setting to connect to each other and to God. Or as they would say 'the universe'😂. I know you can criticize that as well, so please do.
One of the problems is that youre listening to some scrawny beta male tell you his fantasies all day and thinking thats god
Sounds almost like the original sin of Adam and Eve. I want to become like God but without God, on “my” own terms. I want to be spiritual on my own terms without the religion of binding me to God and to His church.
The pic that appears when Johnathan says"and so if we stand together"…been there…and it is such a beautiful place ❤😊
To be fair, it's not always driven by selfishness; rather, it may reflect a desire to avoid being tied to individuals who don't truly share the same understanding. Even when two people profess faith in Jesus, their intentions can differ significantly.
What about hermits that became saints?
Worshipping God and his moral laws are intrinsically connected to him.. to base your morality on your own morals you become a god
All religions require belief, regardless of evidence…
Christ demands belief because of the evidence
Without Christ there would not be Christianity!
Κύριε ίσους Χριστός ελέησον ήμας! ✝️❤️❤️✝️
coughJOHNVERVAEKEcaugh
But truly spiritual person realizes that he doesn’t need religion with all its dogmas and rituals to experientially know the oneness that he is with everyone and everything. Unfortunately, if religion isn’t properly understood as a means to an end and is instead made to be an end in and of itself, the religious person can mistakenly think that it’s the dogmas and rituals which bind him to those of his religion, never transcending the dualistic limits of religion and knowing himself truly.
Followers of Jesus were first called “ Christians “ in Antioch. ( Acts 11:26 ) … for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great number of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch. They were called “ Christians “ because their speech and behaviour were like Christ.
The truth of Christianity leads us not to a position of pride over other people or other religions. Rather we are called into a humble way of life that seeks to embody the love of Jesus through the Spirit so that the whole world might come to know God, the creator of heaven and earth, in and through Jesus Christ. For the truth of Christianity is not that we somehow found our way to God, but that God, in Jesus Christ, came and found us.
The greatest truth is not something you can hold onto, but that which holds onto us.✝️❤️❤️✝️
The devil is spiritual but not religious
I’d ask that man to expand on the dark side of dogma. Then give examples of that dark side, THEN that can be properly addressed
And it is the function of the Transcendent to bring all things together, especially as revealed in Christ
Religio that which binds there is good religion and bad religion good religion is being bound by the God of Life the God of the most High. Bad religion is being bound to lower dead gods.
Gracias
If you reject "organized religion" you just get disorganized religion.
You spoke I spaced out. Not in a negative way. Regurgitating the same old written words gets OLD real quick. It's not a knock on any religion. In fact, it should inspire people to find out what is real and what isn't. If we all make mistakes that means god and his chosen ones also made mistakes. So what do we do? That's the billion dollar question. I respect all religions. Some rules are too rigid. Why? Who? Started that? They injected their own view to religion. Why can't I and other people do the same thing? 🎉
This is very deep. I have called it "collective therapy"
I partly disagree, because I don't think that the "spiritual but not religious" thing is in all cases about me wanting to do things my way all the time. It could also be about not agreeing fully with any one tradition, but seeing some value in several ones. It could be a matter of conviction rather than a mere preference.
Bible says there are only 2 spirits…God/Holy Spirit and the other is Satan/ demonic/…so it's not good to just be spiritual because Satan is a spirit…we have to choose who we will align with( choose ye this day whom ye will serve)
Background music is annoying 😅
there's a problem with groups when they ask you to sacrifice your personal ability to think to a mediocre collective ideology.
there are also things binding the "spiritual" person to other spiritual people… a preference for liberty and individual thought are pretty decent values that can pull people together regardless of creed.
the problem is when people have different epistemologies, then you get into the whole "my truth" thing and you can't communicate across boundaries.
Hold on , SBNR or SBNA is a good stance because it takes the boundaries between the religions ,it means you can use the mechanism and material from everything
Do you do yoga ? Meditate?
That's a proof that the whole world today is going in the direction of SBNR or SBNA.
Religion is truly a bad product , spirituality on the other hand is freeing.
I don't want the shackles,if you want them ,so be it
Well saints isnt much of answer. Saints are humans who can be dogmatic too
get's ask a vaild question about institutionalized religion – a concern that most relate to:
"I don't know what to tell you" giggles
Spirituality, there are many spiritual beliengs, like demons. The true religion guides you to the proper Spirit, which is God. Paul calls these idols and false gods of false religions demons.
Belief and religion are not one in the same. Belief and practice is how one lives to better their own and those around them. Religion is the tool used to claim "yeah, but our sect of said religion is the only true one" religion is used to indoctrinate people particularly if taught by the wrong person (Osteen's of the world) and it's also used to shame you into giving your tides away, which let's be honest, is just a guilt trip to never say it out loud, buy your way into heaven. There is a difference some just like to shame others for not doing exactly as they do so they make videos on youtube to feel better about themselves
I think the ultimate nirvana is recognizing that the devil was an angel, the devil was one of Gods angels, and we all have a devil within us. We all have a light body, and a dark body. We have our heaven consciousness and we have our survival consciousness which is earth consciousness. We are here to remember that we have done things to survive, only because we forgot what our home frequency is. That’s all.
That is a very superficial explanation.
The real problem with religion is a not what this man is saying . Religious people ( many ) divide . My unique God versus all else is evil ( in case of the Christians ) The other religions don’t condemn but use is as a territorial tool . Mine me my precious ring … and the only problem with spirituality is that at some Point you need a Guru and that might be not easy to find . Otherwise you will might go on
deceiving yourself. And I think you are talking about practicing non attachment but that also Jesus though!
It means I'm not gonna give up on existence of holy power beyond us and his goodness just because for centuries human made fake religions caused so much pain and violence and suffering
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household."